In this clip from his recent appearance on the PBD Podcast, Ben Shapiro addresses the broad drop in views and engagement across much of conservative media since the intense political year of 2024. He breaks down the different audiences that various right-leaning personalities actually reach and draws a clear line: he would rather have lower ratings than abandon his principles. Shapiro says he prefers Democrats not running the country over chasing clicks that depend on perpetual conflict, and he notes that he has held positions (on 2020, January 6, and other issues) that cost him audience rather than reverse course for numbers.
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In this nearly two-hour conversation, Patrick Bet-David sits down with Ben Shapiro for a wide-ranging discussion on the fracturing of the conservative movement, Shapiro’s evolution from widely admired figure to frequent target of criticism within parts of the right (especially after October 7), the sharp drop in engagement across conservative media, the distinct audiences different hosts attract, and the ongoing tension between sticking to principles and chasing popularity or clicks. They also cover Shapiro’s self-described blind spots, his differences with figures like Tucker Carlson, the influence of more fringe voices, and early thoughts on the 2028 landscape.
Watch the full PBD Podcast: [VIDEO]
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