''The laptop story keeps expanding.
First came Tucker Carlson’s long interview with Hunter Biden, in which Hunter said he has no recollection of dropping a laptop off at a Delaware repair shop. Then came Ben Shapiro’s sharp reaction, mocking the two men as “silver spoon rich kids” complaining about elites while floating contested claims about the laptop’s origins.
Now the man at the center of the original repair-shop story has answered.
On Thursday morning, John Paul Mac Isaac appeared on the PBD Podcast.
Watch here: [VIDEO]
Mac Isaac is the owner of the Wilmington shop where the water-damaged laptop was left in 2019.
What Mac Isaac Says
Mac Isaac rejects Hunter’s claim that he has no memory of the drop-off. He says the story is documented — serial number, emails, phone records, and later court material all line up. He argues Hunter’s denial is part of an effort to rewrite the history of how the device entered the public record.
He is more pointed about Tucker. Mac Isaac says he had contact with Tucker’s team in the days after the New York Post story broke in 2020 and again later. He claims Tucker never pressed him hard on the details and that a producer once warned him not to stray from the preferred framing. Mac Isaac suggests personal history between Tucker and Hunter (they had known each other for years and moved in overlapping circles) helps explain the soft treatment in the recent interview. He calls it “running cover.”
Mac Isaac also describes the personal cost: years of lawsuits, financial pressure, and the feeling that he was abandoned once the political utility of the story faded. He presents himself as someone still defending the original chain of custody against what he sees as narrative revision.
How It Fits With the Other Two Pieces
- In the Tucker interview, Hunter denied the drop-off and treated the origin story as messy and unreliable.
- Shapiro attacked the interview as elite hypocrisy and dismissed the “Israelis pushed it” angle as conspiratorial.
- Mac Isaac now attacks the interview from the other direction: he says the core factual claim about the laptop’s arrival at his shop is solid, and that Tucker failed to challenge it.
Three different voices, three different incentives, and still no single clean version of events.
The Real Divide
The laptop was always more than a device. It became a test of which institutions and media figures would protect which narratives. Six years later the same pattern is still visible: personal relationships, shifting political incentives, and competing claims about what actually happened in that repair shop.
Whether Mac Isaac’s account holds up under scrutiny is a separate question. What is clear is that the original story is still being contested in real time — by the son, by the interviewer, by the repairman, and by the commentators who have built careers on opposite sides of it.
Watch the Valuetainment segment. Then go back to the Tucker interview and Shapiro’s response. The contradictions are the point.
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